Knocking Down High Rises Stops Crime! Or not.

Today the Daily News has an interesting article about the Philadelphia Housing Authority, and its demolition of high-rise towers with lower density homes. The article sort of talks about this, but, one of the main points that PHA and so many others make is that when you knock down big projects, crime decreases. And, the article cites housing project after housing project, where crime goes down:

At the six sites that have been demolished and rebuilt using new design concepts championed by PHA Executive Director Carl R. Greene, the total number of major crimes has plummeted 63 percent from 1999, Greene's first full year here, to 2007. In contrast, the number of major crimes jumped 65 percent at all 45 PHA-run public-housing developments during the same period.

Greene, who studied the design ideas of New Urbanism, has advocated mixed-income developments in which residents have their own private yards and where neighborhood streets pass through the site, integrating it with the surrounding area rather than isolating it.

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...Cambridge Plaza, where major crimes fell 69 percent from 16 in 1999 to five last year. Or to Greater Grays Ferry Estates, formerly Tasker Homes, which saw a drop of 73 percent, from 75 in 1999 to 20 last year.

We are led to believe that architecture solves crime. But, what is missing from the statistics above is pretty obvious: we know the number of incidents of crime dropped, but, how many less people live there? Is the drop simply because there are far less people? We never really get before and after population numbers except for one: The big, bad, Richard Allen homes.

And, what do we find, but:

Richard Allen Homes, adjacent to Cambridge Plaza, opened in 1942 with 1,324 low-rise units. It was notorious as a crime-infested project from the 1960s up until the first phase of its demolition in 1997. Today, the development has about a third of the number of units, and subsequently, fewer people living there. Its 408 units consist of a mix of brand-new homes, rehabbed ones and apartments in a senior building.

With the renovation and the fewer units, the number of major crimes at Richard Allen has dropped from 32 in 1999 to 11 last year.

Dorn acknowledged that crime has gone down at some sites because fewer people now live in them, but contends the issue has more to do with population density and the architecture of the sites.

OK, so, you take away two-thirds of the people of Richard Allen (and in fact, probably take away more than 2/3rds of the original residents, given many projects become mixed income), and you lose.... 2/3rds of the crime. Not to be a jerk, but doesn't that sort of imply that, at the end of the day, as absolutely crappy and terrible as these huge projects were, crime might not have been caused by architecture, but instead by the fact that most people in PHA homes are desperately poor- with a median income of $11,000 a year? (And by the way, with a PHA waiting list that would stretch for miles, where do people go when 2/3rds of them are told to move out? There is a finite supply of PHA housing, after all.)

Aside from the issue of wondering exactly where people magically go when they are moved out of high-rises, not many people will be shedding tears when thinking about the demolition of Richard Allen, MLK and the rest of the high-rises. A number of reports suggest that it improves home values in neighborhoods surrounding the projects. Would the boom that is happening in many of the surrounding neighborhoods still happen if these projects stood? I doubt it.

There are other reasons we want to mix incomes: urban economists often talk about the value of networking, of increasing social capital and employment, etc. There is a whole body of research on whether or not that is true, and I will leave it to urban studies people to weigh-in. Either way, I think many people would agree that whether it causes crime or not, shoving a bunch of poor people in enormous apartment complexes doesn't feel particularly like a society that we want to take place in.

However, the biggest factor causing crime in housing projects is entrenched, generational poverty, and everything that comes from that. So while we can undo our past urban policy mistakes, it would be a real mistake to think that poverty is 'solved' by knocking down a few high-rises, and bringing in some working to middle-class residents among them.

Yeah this consistently bothers me

as valuable as a paradigm shift in the kind of public housing we build is.

Discussion of the demolition of older public housing complexes is always invoked as a self-contained good, without reference to the total number of public housing units that we are left with, where displaced people end up, the epic waiting lists.

Once people are out of the high rises, there are less total units for new residents, and existing residents who don't fit in the new, lower-density developments are moved over to Section 8, given vouchers to find private rentals in whatever neighborhood landlords are desperate enough to participate in the program.

And once more people are on Section 8, the conversation has changed from "how many apartments and houses do we have and do we need and can we build" to just dollar appropriations--a fight over budgeting.

Demolishing high-rise public-housing does lower crime.

I see two reasons why demolishing high-rise public-housing lowers crime. First, high-rise buildings are difficult, if not impossible, for the police to patrol. Second, the residents have have more pride in their home and neighborhood if they have more of a stake in them. If you warehouse people, people will treat their home like a warehouse.

I understand the theories.

I understand the theories, and it all makes sense. However, do you have any data to back that up? Again, Richard Allen, probably the most notorious place we had in the City, lost 2/3rds of its residents and 2/3rds of its crime.

Obviously, one project's evidence is not enough to really make a definitive statement. But, it certainly at least makes me want to see more evidence.

I don't have this data but it would be a good place to start

In addition to crime rates, you could look at conviction rates, or (less meaningfully) arrest rates.

I think that management of

I think that management of the Palaskitown projects has more to do with it than anything else. From what I understand, the projects near where I grew up saw a deep reduction in crime when management and security got their acts together. I say this, ironically, two days after a cop got shot there.

The amount of crime and despair in some of the poorly managed low rise projects is nothing to shake a stick at.

Palaskitown?

Did i miss something? What/where are the Palaskitown projects? Obviously not in Philadelphia.

I think he means

I think he means Pulaski-Town, a section of Germantown, where they built the Queen Lane Apartments, where a cop was recently shot.

For anyone to expect housing

For anyone to expect housing alone to prevent crime is foolish. High rise projects are dangerous and have been for a very long time, take a look at Chicago prior to their knock downs of the high rise projects and the Richard Allen homes. To make the point of statistics, then show me where the crime rate has gone up conversely?

because of the people who left the Richard Allen homes, to my knowledge the crime rate itself has gone down around the city.People do not feel safe, I am also curious as to where is the nightly murder count that was taking place when Sylvester Johnson was commissioner we always heard about how many people were murdered every day, but now when there is a new administration the media hasn't thrown any numbers out there anymore.

It is a wonderful thing to build homes and hopefully give people pride, though it is one part of the puzzle, I hope no one gets lost on that

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter".
Dr Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

I agree with some of what

I agree with some of what you are saying, but I am not sure I totally follow, David. The crime rate at the homes that replaced Richard Allen is effectively still the same. It does not appear to have gone down whatsoever.

where they go

since one for one replacement isn't currently required by the federal govt, ''displaced'' residents are moved to other developments or given section 8 vouchers to use with private landlords, etc.

they're not sent packing to the nearest street corner.

Right, but there is a long,

Right, but there is a long, long waiting list for both public housing and section 8 vouchers. In other words, a lot of eligible people cannot get them. So, if you all of a sudden say we have 600 more people who need vouchers, while removing public housing, you have lowered the number of available units for people who need housing.

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