SEPTA - It's Filthy, Why Care? - Two small ideas to get things moving

A large portion of this region has two views of the system, late and/or filthy. As a city division rider that occasionally ventures into the burbs for work on some lines, I haven't had too much of a problem with the former, but filthy, I can't accept. While acknowledging that SEPTA is the largest housing agency for those with mental illness and/or homeless and that this often contributes to its decrepit state, it's unacceptable that buses and El trains should have urine on the floor, outdoor stations smell like sewers, etc.

To me, this is the single biggest problem SEPTA has. Other than Oscar the Grouch, who loves something that smells like a trash dump? Who cares about things that are constantly filthy? Until SEPTA gradually changes it's image into something that isn't a synonym for garbage, no one will care enough about it, especially the city division, to provide for it at the rates required to make it the gem it ought to be for the city. You can't remake this system overnight, but baby steps, especially those involving ridership, will make a difference in improving SEPTA's stature in the minds of its riders, casual users and even refusers in the coming years.

That said, here's a small suggestion for action:

Each month, the PTC and Ray Murphy's-Yet-unnamed Rider's Union (SEPTIC Local 1776 for now) pick a filthy station, spotlight it, get into dialogue with SEPTA's seemingly-unfunded clean-up department and challenge them to have it spotless by the end of the month (generous, but this is baby steps folks). If it's not spotless by the end of the month, free rides on the first Monday of the next month at that station.

Also, like each Rec Center has an advisory council, so should each Septa EL, Subway and major bus station. With a small $10K grant each year, a committed group of community-oriented people, especially riders, can really help to keep a station clean, though I firmly believe that routine maintenance and upkeep should be performed by the agency. It's a logical partnership that empowers people to care for their station and make it a point of pride for their neighborhoods.

Like everything else in the world, a small minority of losers try to ruin it for everyone else. SEPTA is no different. Graffiti-morons, vandals, careless litterers, etc. take it to another level on our trains and buses.

Feel free to critique, but it's time to challenge SEPTA by making it cleaner. Until it's done, no one will love SEPTA.

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Well said, and a good idea.

Well said, and a good idea.

More SEPTA Ideas

AJ, great ideas. Before I forget to mention it, the Center City District recently took over responsibility for cleaning the SEPTA concourses in Center City, so hopefully they will be getting cleaner. Here are some other ideas for improving SEPTA.

  1. Change the name. It has a terrible connotation. Also change the logo, which is tedious at best.
  2. Implement an electronic smart fare card. End the cost of handling and processing tokens and join the fairly new millenium.
  3. Where there is a lane to pull over for a stop have the bus pull over, not stop in a traffic lane.
  4. Have buses stop every second block, not every block, especially in Center City.
  5. Implement a pilot program with CCP or another college allowing students to ride SEPTA for free in exchange for a mandatory additional student fee that gets transfered to SEPTA.
  6. Have drivers and train conductors announce stops.
  7. Get new signs and maps at stops including signs at passenger eye level at all train stations and signs that clearly tell passengers where each bus that services a stop goes to.
  8. Work with community groups, local governments and people that want to help and support you; try to show some flexibility and creativeness in this area.
  9. Have a program to introduce suburban high school students, and college students to SEPTA. Show up at college orientation with some free passes and promotional items.
  10. Put countdown clocks to the scheduled time of the next SEPTA train at the airport in the baggage claim areas.

News Paper Today

"Subway stations don't usually win the Good Housekeeping Seal for cleanliness. But the one at 15th and Market has gone far beyond what is acceptable.

It's not just the stench that has riders covering their noses and mouths, although the odor is truly disgusting in the summer heat. It's the rats.

The station is overrun by rats - not just on the tracks, but scampering around the platform as well. There are so many, and they are so big, that riders like me have begun wondering whether the rats shouldn't have to pay fares, particularly given SEPTA's latest financial crisis.

The problem apparently isn't just at 15th Street. One woman told me that she saw two rats fighting at the 13th Street station. And my former boss was walking up stairs at Suburban Station a few weeks back when a rat came racing down, with two guys chasing it. Of course, she didn't need any coffee to wake up that morning. (At least the rat took the stairs.)"

I think that pretty much sums up why I walk 3 miles home or take the bus.

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Once they upgrade the fare

Once they upgrade the fare collection system to the technology that the MTA has been using since at least the late 1990s, they should be able to get rid of a lot of useless employees. Replace these lost jobs with extra sanitation workers. That's my solution.

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