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Why was turnout so low?
Before I write one more word, I need to gush some: Seth Williams won! It is such a relief and such a victory, as Seth said last night, "of hope over fear." And really it is mutual admiration of Seth Williams that shaped and built the YPP community that's emerged since Dan's founding in 2004. So, it's just really a big and exciting deal.
But anyway, why was turnout so low? Lot of reasons. One, we have too many elections. There has actually been research done on this, and the more elections a place has, the lower turnout gets to be. Two, the zeitgeist was not activated as much this year as in others. Sometimes ideas and messages bounce around (like, I dunno, say getting rid of George Bush) and sometimes they don't. Three, directly related to the last point, newspaper circulation and staffing budgets keep getting smaller. And TV news does not do politics well. So it's harder and harder to read about local politics. Four, the economy is bad and it was harder than ever to raise money for local races. I am sure there are lots of other reason.
But one reason turnout was low that we all have some control over: Our voting system sucks.
Last primary, I worked a divisions in the 5th ward for my friend Rue Landau. She was running as a delegate for Obama and I wanted to know how well I did getting out the vote for her. So I called the City Commissioners’ office to ask for a password to log in to their online database. They said no. Dan and Jennifer wrote some letters and dealt with a city solicitor, and millions of dollars later we have online election results.
But the day after another low turn-out primary election, that victory is bittersweet. Because when it comes to the basic operations of the City Commissioners’ office, not much has changed.
I wrote about this a year and a half ago and there are at least two more posts lurking on the site in which similar points were made. Here are some of my favorites ideas for reform:
- The Commissioners could send a postcard in the mail or an email reminding voters about Election Day. It’s been done before, but not in Primaries and not in every General. That’s one way to drive up turnout.
- Same-day voter registration is another concept that has helped boost voter turnout in other states. This will require a change in state law, but how can we ever expect a change in state law to occur if election officials in Philadelphia and other large counties don’t get more aggressive and ask for one?
- Vote by mail. Again, requires state law, but a huge boost to turnout in Oregon and Washington and some other states in low-information races (like the one we just had).
- How about public advertising, partnering with utilities to print election info on bills (do you know how easy it would be to print your polling place location on your gas or water bill?), an updated website, and many other ideas are all available to the Commissioners to use to boost turnout. A stream of TV ads sure wouldn’t hurt.
- Here’s an easier one: Notify people by mail if their polling place changes. And make sure all polling places are accessible and—call me crazy—in or at least close to the division they represent.
Now I know not all of these changes can be made by the city alone. But one really has to wonder if the city has ever asked for any of them. (Which is why Dan, myself and others have all made the argument that the Commissioners’ office should be taken out of the charter and put under the office of the Mayor or set up like the OIG or something.)
I know I am a broken record on this point. And I know that turnout is not determined solely, or maybe even mostly by voting reform (ie, good candidates with good networks of people and inspiring ideas are what count the most), but jeez, making some pro-active changes sure couldn’t hurt.


Not sure if this was true
Not sure if this was true everywhere, but the average age of the voter at my division in Fishtown and probably throughout the ward was probably north of 55. If we had a voter under 25, I'd be shocked. We had almost record-low turnout yesterday and that is with the last vestiges of the greatest generation and their immediate progeny with some semblance of civic duty making up the vast majority. What happens when these people die? 8% turnout? 5%?
I'm with Ray on trying to use technology or common sense to increase turnout. Increased turnout is viral, as more people feel like they should vote, they will. Numerous studies point to this aspect of human nature. The prevailing winds say that people should skip these elections so everyone does. If we make it easier to vote and increase participation somewhat, perhaps more people will feel like they should vote, as sad as that sentence sounds.
Also, Christ almighty, in this city, especially in the rowhouse communities, does anyone have to travel more than six blocks from their house to vote? Six blocks? Get off your ass and walk around the corner for ten minutes. Don't tell me how busy you are. Turn off the goddamn television and/or computer. (End of insane old man in early-thirties rant).
Negative Campaigning Drives Turnout Down
Negative campaigning almost always drives turnout down, especially among people who do not know the candidates well.
Negative campaigning often does not help the person who most engages in it: the Mandel attacks on Butkovitz clearly helped Braxton gain traction, without creating a strong positive vision for Mandel. Ditto for the McCaffery attacks on Williams, which helped McElhatton.
Does anyone really believe that Philadelphia was some sort of Utopia when the City Controller did annual audits of every department, regardless of likelihood of finding much that is significant? Even the IRS picks and chooses in who it audits, so it can go after the people most likely to be required to pay more taxes.
I get, as do many other people, that there is a lot of anger in this city. But anger does not unite people enough to win the vast majority of elections. There have to be demonstrations of vision and accomplishment, and that was missing from all too many campaigns in the last election.
Let me call attention to the winning campaign of Diane Thompson, a constituent of mine, for Common Please Court Judge, who came in third for seven positions despite not being on more than a handful or so of ward ballots. She spent less than $35,000 on her campaign, a fact that should serve as a cautionary note to candidates who spent many times that and still complain about not having had enough money.
Not being endorsed after 20 years or so as a Dmocratic committeewoman, and a recent stint as a ward chairman, she had reason to be angry, but her campaign was not about anger. It was about positive change.
Her slogan was "The Courage to Care." Her campaign picture had in the midst of children of many different ethnicities. She campaigned tirelessly at neighborhood functions, as did her husband. Her daughter worked to build up online support.
She did not spend much money on election day expenses for ward committees. Her money went to small newspapers (disclosure: the non-profit newspaper I recently formed for the Lower Northeast and a chunk of the Northwest, Your Community Voice, received $300 for a full page ad from her campaign), countless inexpensive flyers distributed by volunteers promoting her candidacy, and tickets for various political and community functions.
She made sure everyone knew she was well-qualified in many respects: recommended by the Philadelphia Bar Association, the Philadelphia Inquirer, the AFL-CIO, the National Organization of Women, Philly for Change, Liberty City, numerous labor unions, and others, including DanUA here.
She also made sure people knew that she had been around for a long time as a public school teacher as well as a lawyer and a participant in the Good Shepherd Mediation Project, a community activist in the Olney Athletic Association, Morrison Home and School Council, and the Olney Community Council, as well as a Democratic committeewoman and an Obama alternate delegate.
In short, Diane Thompson made clear who she was, where she had been, and the general direction of her views for the future. Her campaign was not about how much money she could raise, or how angry she could be, but how much good she had done and would likely do if given an opportunity on the Common Pleas Court. The more she campaigned, the more she gained support, which is not a claim that all the other candidates can make.
I suspect we will be hearing many good things about Diane Thompson in the future, as we have in the past.
I know he's a former colleague but this is still disinformation
The more cursory bookkeeping audits establish a basic level of knowledge for deciding when and where to pull out the big guns of performance audits, based on data-based criteria more substantial than just going after what the Controller feels like doing. Or not doing in the case of the Parking Authority.
Maybe there is a case for switching those base-level audits to a two year cycle, as Saidel did, but the letter of the City Charter is specific in what it demands. If the mayor decided to arbitrarily ignore the City Charter about whether a Council supermajority vote could override a veto, you would be far less cavalier about following the letter of the City Charter.
Regardles there are departments Butkovitz has not touched at all in three years.
If accusing Bukovitz of having political conflicts of interest is "negative campaigning" then Braxton is every bit as guilty.
Mandel's argument was always that not doing the required basic audits was symptomatic of a Controller who only does "gotcha" performance audits based more on arbitary political decisions than on a comprehensive analysis of where there might be fraud and waste in the system.
So yeah negative campaigning - but what if its all true. I mean does it get any more basic than the law explicitly says the basic job requirement is X but the incumbent is only doing Y. Thats a factual argument, not a descriptive one.
RE: Thompson I would love to think that the PfC ballot that every single voter in my divison recieved courtesy of me made a small difference. I know the committee people did not match me on my efforts.
-Sean
MrLuigi, my cat, actually only types half as badly as I do.
Truth Is A Legal Defense For Libel, Not A Political Defense
Truth is a legal defense for libel, not a political defense for ineffective messaging and lack of persuasiveness.
I remember years ago a state legislative race in the suburbs in which the Democratic candidate was outraged at the actions of his opponent, a Republican Township Commissioner. A bookstore owner wanted to bring a bookstore in the the downtown shopping area, and the township commissioner publicly insisted that he pay $25,000 towards the cost of building a small park in the area as a condition to getting the needed zoning approval.
The Democratic candidate was outraged at this extralegal action. He pounded on it at every opportunity. He had narrowly lost the preceding election against another candidate, and he was sure that pounding on this action without legal sanction was the road to victory.
The House Democratic Campaign Committee took a detailed poll on the race. The poll showed that the SINGLE MOST POPULAR ACTION the township commissioner had taken was to require the bookstore owner to pay $25,000 to the cost of the park.
Our fearless candidate was undeterred, but it was clear that his continued harping on this issue was, if anything, counterproductive. He lost by far more votes the second time around than he did the first.
Brett Mandel has every legal right to run the kind of campaign he ran. He can run as many campaigns as he chooses in the style of his 2009 campaign--as long as he doesn't care about winning. If he cares about winning a future campaign, he will not become a prisoner of a negative critique of an opponent, and will find ways to keep positive messages from being obscured by negative ones.
You Obviously Weren't Paying Attention
While it is true that Brett criticized Mr. Butkovitz, that is generally how one campaigns against an incumbent. If a challenger did not do so, how could he convince the electorate to vote for him/her. Brett's criticisms of how Mr. Butkovitz runs his office are valid and should not be considered "negative campaigning" as I understand it.
It was Mr. Butkovitz ran a negative campaign against Brett, including two mailers and a full page ad, as well as losing his composure at a number of debates and forums. So, while you ascribe negative campaigning to Brett, Brett's criticisms of Butkovitz were based in fact. Butkovitz, however, distorted Brett's record and went even lower and lost his temper more than a few times.
Also, of all three candidates, only Brett defined how he would perform the job as City Controller. Only one campaign released a policy paper--the Mandel campaign.
As someone who has never run a campaign against an incumbent, you may not understand how that works.
I should add that Brett Mandel decided to run for Controller in February. They didn't have much of a campaign team until the middle of March. He raised more money than both of his opponents in a much shorter period of time. He recieved the two most coveted endorsements in Philly politics, the Inky and the DN, as well as the endorsements of a number of elected officials and TWU.
If you believe that Brett did not build a base of support, then you are sadly mistaken.
I'm sorry Marc. I did not
I'm sorry Marc. I did not vote for Diane for any of the reasons that you mentioned. I voted for Diane because I was impressed with her son :-)
How did this thread get polluted?
Um, maybe negative campaigning is a factor in turnout. But my point was that the most basic of things we need to establish decent turnout--a well-run City Commissioners' office--is lacking. How do we change that?
For the very tail part of e-day
I was handing out lit at a polling place at Temple Beth Israel - Beth Zion and overheard/ slipped into a bit of conversation with Rep. Babette Josephs about the prospects of an Oregon-style mail in ballot here in Pennsylvania. It came up that though this was a system with a lot merits and that she had been investigating it as a model herself, that the PA Constitution is very specific about how mail-in ballots are handled as a result of the 1968 revision of the Constitution. Apparently there was some sort of battle over absentee ballots in 1964 that caused them to set the handling of absentee ballots into the Constitution. this is significant because it would require another modification of the state Constitution in order to implement an Oregon-style system.
After reading your other piece on the topic, I did some reading up on Oregon and it really does seem to be a system with a lot of positives to it so I found this bit of information a bit distressing.
Really I think the low turnout for this election is a serious problem.
I'm sorry about the distraction from the the topic at hand. Negative campaigning sure, but generally a discussion of issues, passions, etc. drive newsworthiness and interest in elections. Its far more likely that after the historic Presidential elections, the big ongoing battles aobut healthcare, credit card reform, torture and the global economic meltdown that people are partially just hung over on elections.
-Sean
MrLuigi, my cat, actually only types half as badly as I do.
Get Council Members To Introduce Bills
Items one, four, and five on your list are city issues which are regulated by City Council. City Council can mandate what you are asking for. I would be very surprised if an effort to get bills introduced in City to achieve these objectives would not succeed.
Babette Josephs has already introduced state legislation to provide for voting by mail.
I was opposed to same day voter registration, until I campaigned for Obama in New Hampshire, and saw how it worked there. In New Hampshire, voter registration rolls contain a list of eligible people who are not registered voters, which dramatically reduces the potential for fraud.
I therefore will be introducing same day registration in Pennsylvania, based on the New Hampshire model.
Paging City Council members and staff
And great news on same-day reg Mark!
Since at least one state
Since at least one state representative is reading... how about changing Pennsylvania's primary election date to a Saturday? (Along with all of Ray's ideas of early voting, mail in voting, and same day registration.) Tuesday voting means that working people essentially have from 7-8 am (assuming they have to be on their way to work by 8), and maybe 6-8 pm.
Move it to a Saturday and make it a festival atmosphere. Anything to get some turnout going. I was voter number 5 at Ward 1, Division 11 by about 7:50am. That's compared to the fall when I was number 20 by about 7:05 am.
Did anyone else notice the
Did anyone else notice the lack of media attention on the election?
Though, I am not sure that media attention would have helped. My wife was at the hair salon and mentioned the election - her comments were met with "what election?" from the other patrons. Did they not receive the multiple door fliers that we received?
Many Philadelphians are asleep at the wheel. I am not originally from Philadelphia....and I know this happens everywhere, especially in large cities.
The Media virtually ignored this race
When I want to know what the weather is like in the morning, I log on to nbc10.com. When I logged on Tuesday morning, there was nothing there to make you believe there was an election that day, ditto for 6abc and whyy. Our media has a responsibility to promote democracy and they are failing us.
Low turnout + complacent Commissioners =
good reasons to join Committee of 70's campaign to rid the City of the Commissioners and five other needless or redundant offices.
Now that we know we won't have a City Controller who'll pursue better government anytime soon, we'll have to do it ourselves.
Yeah, about that...
You probably remember the report Jen or I gave at a PFC steering committee meeting a few years back, but we, along with Renee Gilinger, Marc Stier and some other folks met with Zack at 70 to talk about just these issues and asked for Zack's help. We sent a follow-up letter and never heard back.
A lot of these issues could be taken care of even without getting rid of the Commissioners. Though of course I think that is the end-result we should all aim for if nothing else happens. But I guess I feel like we need Council and the Mayor to show leadership asking for changes and then seeing what happens. Or I guess it could all happen concurrently, but I won't want to wait for the year (minimum) it would take to change the law when there is another important election (judges!) in November.
Zach's campaign was recently renewed for the budget fight
Elizabeth Fiedler reported on it on March 17th of this year.
http://whyy.org/cms/news/government-politics/2009/03/17/city-reform-advo...
I suggest calling on the mayor and Council to begin the process of eliminating these positions now.
If this kind of change doesn't happen in a budget meltdown year, it won't happen.
And status quo shouldn't cut it in a year when you're raising the sales tax.
Right, but
Even if the law was changed tomorrow, it's not like Marge and Co. would pack up and leave the same day. There would need to be a period of transition. Not to mention that it took Mayor Nutter a minute to get the folks appointed who serve in government now. And of course many staff would likely stay on (as there a lot of good and experienced folks in the office like the famous Bob E. Lee).
But, anyway, if you cleaned house right away, it'd be really tough to get a whole new operation in place by November's election. This actually happened in Denver last year (I think...maybe 2 years) where there was a debacle with the election office (they tried doing non-geographic polling stations i think) and the Gov (I think) appointed someone to take over after it all blew up. It was, suffice it to say, a messy process. It took a lot of time to change the legal make-up of the office. It was not smooth.
That's why I said a concurrent process would be great. And that's why you saw me paging City Council above. The bigger issue here though is a political one. If Council and the Mayor want to increase turnout in primaries, it weakens the party's current operation. Since a lot of electeds--including the Mayor--endorsed a lot of party backed candidates, low turnout may have been something they were all ok with.
Yes, better electoral practices might be developed
by the Mayor and Council now and should be.
But since there is no six month span ever in Pennsylvania without an election, and since in fact 2009 represents a low work year for whoever prepares for and maintains Philadelphia's elections (by November a primary will be six month's away that will include Governor, U.S. Senator, half the State Senate seats, and all the U.S. and State Reps), now is the time to make big change.
Again, if institutional reform is not accomplished in crisis years, it frequently just isn't accomplished.
I support the type of changes in practice you're suggesting, but I strongly suggest tying that effort to the existing effort to shut down the Commissioners office that represents an even larger and more endemic problem.
dichotomy
think you are creating one that does not exist.
I don't get it
What's the dichotomy?
I'm missing something.
I think the Election Commissioner's Office kinda sucks, too, tho... on the other hand... should the Mayor run it? Brr...
In other news: I hate, hate, hate having an election every single year here. God. It totally stinks. It's just like a permanent state of guilt that I'm not doing more.
And more people would have voted in this one if it had been tied to Federal races.
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This Too Will Pass, for the guts in your cerebrum.
I do like the fact
that Mayoral and City Council races are not eclipsed by presidential politics but I do wonder to what extent that this cycle, the off, off year not being attached to bigger races hurts it.The Inky is saying turn out was 13%, but the other record low turnout was also a D.A.-Controller year election in 1985 at 11.5%.
-Sean
MrLuigi, my cat, actually only types half as badly as I do.
I think we agree that you can reform both practices and
the election commission at the same time.
In fact, if we have new appointees (say, agreed upon by the Mayor and Council) running elections, they likely would be more receptive to change and making improvements.
When I have heard the Mayor
When I have heard the Mayor talk about it, he talked about potential changes happening in 2010...
Ray's points 1, 4 & 5
could be pursued and achieved immediately.
And if you don't think there's governmental inertia to deal with
on issues like these, know this:
When I was talking to nice guy/machine Councilman Bill Greenlee Tuesday, he criticized the effort to shut down the BRT.
Why compromise the Forcefield of Impenetrability surrounding City Hall with so much practical reality, he must have thought.
"he criticized the effort to shut down the BRT"
**eyes blinking, mouth agape in astonishment**
See the thing that is most insane about the intransigence on efforts to turn out more voters is that ultimately move voters tends to equal a higher percentage of progressive voters. Small turn out elections may debatably good for "party unity" but they are awful for D's ability to turn out voters for state-wide and presidential elections.
Thats perhaps whats most frustrating - how ultimately self-defeating it is to not do a better job of bringing out voters reliably.
-Sean
MrLuigi, my cat, actually only types half as badly as I do.
#5 ought to be a law
I'm down with all of these, of course. I'm glad you didn't suggest the perennial "move it to Saturday." I think that's a horrible idea and will beat that drum forever.
I do think the problem is partly the system and partly the people. Every election day creates a certain amount of disillusionment for me, and I'm not really willing to completely take the "people don't vote because they don't think that government is resonsive to them anyway." I think that applies to some people.
There's also some people who vote but only when there's enough buzz about the election to make them feel it. So we could do something about that, too.
But I also think there's a lot of people who don't vote because they kinda suck at life. I'm in sort of a grumpy mood today, but I have to say it. I think this is a big number, and, disturbingly, it's growing.
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This Too Will Pass, for the guts in your cerebrum.
Like I said
There is some research out there that shows lower turnout in countries/places that vote more frequently. So yeah Brady. Yeah.
awareness/self-education is a major task
There were a lot of candidates in this election, and tracking down, let alone internalizing, all their various stances required a major commitment (unless you were willing to just take the Inqy endorsements, or maybe your committeeperson). And that's before you get to judges, who can't really even say what they believe or want to do -- how does the average person without access to Ward meetings (etc.) sort that out? (The best I ever did was cross-reference the recommendations of several organizations, to see what I could deduce from that, but I'm not sure I always ended up with the best people as a result.)
I say this by way of saying that I understand why so many folks skip an election like this. It's just too hard to be an informed voter, and just piling up uninformed votes to make us feel better about turn-out numbers doesn't help anybody. Heck, I can't say that I've been voting in Presidential primaries for that long -- I wasn't always the politics hound that I am now, and I usually didn't feel I knew enough to make a choice at that stage. Asking people to sort out the qualifications of people for jobs whose descriptions they don't even understand goes way beyond that for the average non-politics-hound, into a realm that feels either mystical or trivial, depending on their outlooks.
I wish everybody cared about politics and recognized how important these positions are for their daily lives and the future of our city. But that's a much bigger project than improving turn-out in off-year primaries...
acm
(p.s.) I am amazed that anybody could not know there was an election -- we must have averaged 3 robocalls per night for the last 5 days. I guess they were already targetting A voters...
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
— Margaret Mead
Lack of Clear Differences A Problem
I agree with redfox1. An awful lot of people concluded that none of the candidates were perfect, none were terrible, and it just wasn't worth the effort to sort out who was better than someone else.
The result was that the small number of people who actually voted were almost certainly far better informed than the electorate as a whole--a result which is not totally bad.
Certainly the winning candidates now have a duty to reach out to the broader electorate to create a strong Democratic victory. Control of three appellate courts is at stake in this election, as is the chance to have a progressive district attorney.
Races in which the Democrats nominate a black candidate are the only ones the Republican even bother, at times, to meaningfully contest. The first Democrat to be nominated for District Attorney, former Commonwealth Court Judge Robert Willians, was upset by current Supreme Court Chief Justice Ron Castille in 1985. Getting the Democratic turnout as high as possible will make a repeat of that outcome highly unlikely, as the Republican registration in Philadelphia now stands at 12.75%--and steadily sinking.